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[Shellback]

Just to be precise, that class is called "Basic Safety Training", not "STCW".

Did you turn it in to the USCG within 12 months of taking the course? If you didn't, then (and I could be wrong) I believe it's expired.

If you did turn it in to the USCG, then it's good for 5 years. At the end of that time (or just before) in order to re-validate it, you'll need to turn in appropriate sea-service recency (which I don't remember how much is required). If one had been issued an ACTUAL STCW certificate (not BST) then another option is to take a BST Refresher course (I think, someone feel free to correct me if I've stepped on my d*ck)

I think you are right Trek, we have a guy having this same problem on my boat..He needed 360 days or time in the last 5 years and doesn't have it..He is having to take the refresher course..

[TxKingfisher]

I think you are right Trek, we have a guy having this same problem on my boat..He needed 360 days or time in the last 5 years and doesn't have it..He is having to take the refresher course..

All course certificates must be turned into the CG to be put into your file within a year. Your STCW never expires or needs renewing unless you let your license go. (expired past the 1 year grace period)

If you take 5 years or more from the time you turn in your course certs to the time you get your license....... I don't know. I was told once they are in your file they are good forever unless you let your license go. Interesting question though. The lesson here is don't delay!

[jmack383]

Dear Sir:

If you are referring to the BST's they have a 5 year expiration on them, so you can still use them.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Thank you for contacting the National Maritime Center

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-----Original Message-----
From: johnmackbrown@gmail.com [mailto:johnmackbrown@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:04 PM
To: D05-SMB-NMC-Questions
Subject: Licensing

From: John Brown
(Using the Contact IASKNMC form on the NMC website at http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/contact_iasknmc.asp)
6:03:44 PM, 3/7/2010
Subject: Licensing
_____________________________________
I attended and passed a STCW course in 2008. I was wondering if those certificates expire or will I be able to use them on my license upgrade this year?

[Shellback]

Thats exactly why you need to do your own home work and never take anyones word for anything, including the NMC...Now, if you really want to know, find the CFR that backs up what the NMC said and get back to us...

[Jon]

Thats exactly why you need to do your own home work and never take anyones word for anything, including the NMC...Now, if you really want to know, find the CFR that backs up what the NMC said and get back to us...

From NMC Policy Letter 12-01: "A mariner who has met the requirements for initial competency in BST and who is actively serving on seagoing ships will be considered as having demonstrated continuing competence in BST provided he or she completes at least one year of sea service within the past five years. This five-year period is a running calendar in which credit for competency in BST extends for five years beyond the critical date at which the mariner has completed one year of sea service. To determine the critical date review the mariner’s sea service starting with the current date and go backwards in time until one year of sea service is counted. The period of validity for continuing competence in BST is then five years from the date where the mariner has completed one year of sea service."

Or has this policy letter been superseded or revoked?

[Shellback]

Jon, I believe that to be accurate,a guy on my boat is dealing with this problem as he didn't sail much in the past 5 years ...

What I was challenging Jmac to do was either confirm or deny what the NMC told him about his BST certificate...If nothing else it's good practice to find things in the CFR's..

[jmack383]

From NMC Policy Letter 12-01: "A mariner who has met the requirements for initial competency in BST and who is actively serving on seagoing ships will be considered as having demonstrated continuing competence in BST provided he or she completes at least one year of sea service within the past five years. This five-year period is a running calendar in which credit for competency in BST extends for five years beyond the critical date at which the mariner has completed one year of sea service. To determine the critical date review the mariner’s sea service starting with the current date and go backwards in time until one year of sea service is counted. The period of validity for continuing competence in BST is then five years from the date where the mariner has completed one year of sea service."

Or has this policy letter been superseded or revoked?

Well that works for me!

[jmack383]

I believe it is the schools who put a expiration date on the certs..