Confusion about Mate OSV

[jbranscum]

All,

Currently holding 100T Master / 200T Mate NC w/ 500T ITC Endorsement. Only became of OSV restrictions a few weeks ago and can't really get any solid answers in regards.

My main question is trying to find out if Mate OSV has tonnage restrictions like 200, 500 and 1600T or not. Can't really get an answer to that one because all the 1600T captains don't seem to have this OSV restriction on their license anywhere.

Just to get my foot in the door, I suppose I'm going to start with a Master/Mate OSV and then work on getting my unrestricted license later on.. will I need to take all the classes over again or just the ones I haven't taken already?

Currently I don't have any seatime as a mate so my next upgrade will be to my mate ticket only, to 1600T.. as I understand it my masters license will remain at 100T until I hold enough time as mate or master.. so since I will be testing for my 1600T mate at USCG, will I need to retest another year or two down the road to upgrade my 100T master to 500 or 1600?

Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.

[Mr 100-ton]

the mate OSV is a 500 ton 3000 ITC license that the company you work for has to have an approved program with the USCG,,,, if you complete the program and pass the OSV test at the REC then you license would say mate 500 ton osv plus the 100 master 200 mate on it.

with the mate 500 osv you can pretty much be a mate on most vessels in the gulf

[Diesel]

What he said, also you can put a 6000 ton endorsement on a Mate OSV, something you cannot do on a 500 ton mate or master.

[Azimuth]

All,

Currently holding 100T Master / 200T Mate NC w/ 500T ITC Endorsement. Only became of OSV restrictions a few weeks ago and can't really get any solid answers in regards.

My main question is trying to find out if Mate OSV has tonnage restrictions like 200, 500 and 1600T or not. Can't really get an answer to that one because all the 1600T captains don't seem to have this OSV restriction on their license anywhere.

Just to get my foot in the door, I suppose I'm going to start with a Master/Mate OSV and then work on getting my unrestricted license later on.. will I need to take all the classes over again or just the ones I haven't taken already?

Currently I don't have any seatime as a mate so my next upgrade will be to my mate ticket only, to 1600T.. as I understand it my masters license will remain at 100T until I hold enough time as mate or master.. so since I will be testing for my 1600T mate at USCG, will I need to retest another year or two down the road to upgrade my 100T master to 500 or 1600?

Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.

The biggest difference are the assessments. For the OSV license you only need to do 54 of the 84 assessments. Can't answer the questions about the the schools you would need beyond the core schools of ADV FF, BRM, Medical Care Provider, and RADAR UNL, as well as BST & basic FF. GMDSS & ARPA are not required to obtain the license but most companies will want you to have it. My guess is that if you do 360 days on your license you won't have to take the other STCW courses. Your 360 days of operational experience exempts you from additional courses to go unrestricted. But I could be wrong.

As for the test, I don't think you should have to test again either but again I'm not 100%.

[Mr 100-ton]

mate and master are 2 separate test,, so yes you will have to test again,,,,

[jbranscum]

The biggest difference are the assessments. For the OSV license you only need to do 54 of the 84 assessments. Can't answer the questions about the the schools you would need beyond the core schools of ADV FF, BRM, Medical Care Provider, and RADAR UNL, as well as BST & basic FF. GMDSS & ARPA are not required to obtain the license but most companies will want you to have it. My guess is that if you do 360 days on your license you won't have to take the other STCW courses. Your 360 days of operational experience exempts you from additional courses to go unrestricted. But I could be wrong.

GMDSS, Radar, ARPA and STCW (BFF, BST) are completed. AFF, BRM, MCP left to go.. and of course the core requirements for terrestrial, etc.

That would be freakin awesome if I could bypass the other 40+ days of classes required for unrestricted simply by accrewing mate/master seatime. This is the first I've heard of that though; everywhere else I've heard that you cannot bypass things like ship maneuvering, ship construction, meteorology, etc.

mate and master are 2 separate test,, so yes you will have to test again,,,,

Thats what I thought, thanks for confirming.

[Diesel]

My guess is that if you do 360 days on your license you won't have to take the other STCW courses. Your 360 days of operational experience exempts you from additional courses to go unrestricted. But I could be wrong.

As for the test, I don't think you should have to test again either but again I'm not 100%.

You have to test again. Anyway that's the way it is right now, but after the end of the interim rule which is most likely ending this summer, you will have to take the classes.

[jbranscum]

Another question: Does hawsepipe have a complete home study guide for Mate OSV? If not them, then someone else? I may just do the study material myself in my off-watch hours onboard and during my mornings at home, rather than drive an hour to Fletcher and limited to my days off. Thanks!

[mike24]

I presently hold an OSV mates licence. All it says is "OSV Mate 3000 ITC" nothing listed about 500t. Just put in for my 1600 ton non-trade master, my letter came back from NMC listing all I needed was the correct sea-time. No classes or assesments needed. Once I get the days then go in and test.
That's until someone at the NMC decides that the system needs to be changed again!

[mike24]

Houston's home study is a good source. Pretty much what the disks have you will see on the test. I used them for about 6 weeks then went into the REC and passed first go round. I guess it's personal preference on what you like to use.

[chief]

All,

Currently holding 100T Master / 200T Mate NC w/ 500T ITC Endorsement. Only became of OSV restrictions a few weeks ago and can't really get any solid answers in regards.

My main question is trying to find out if Mate OSV has tonnage restrictions like 200, 500 and 1600T or not. Can't really get an answer to that one because all the 1600T captains don't seem to have this OSV restriction on their license anywhere.

Just to get my foot in the door, I suppose I'm going to start with a Master/Mate OSV and then work on getting my unrestricted license later on.. will I need to take all the classes over again or just the ones I haven't taken already?

Currently I don't have any seatime as a mate so my next upgrade will be to my mate ticket only, to 1600T.. as I understand it my masters license will remain at 100T until I hold enough time as mate or master.. so since I will be testing for my 1600T mate at USCG, will I need to retest another year or two down the road to upgrade my 100T master to 500 or 1600?

Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.

All OSV credentials are a "Dead End". They do not even show up in the Coast Guard's "Engineer License Structure" contained in the Code of Federal Regulations. You get them by a highly secret industrial training program. They limit your employment to Offshore Supply Vessels and can not be used for other work.
Chief

[Diesel]

All OSV credentials are a "Dead End". They do not even show up in the Coast Guard's "Engineer License Structure" contained in the Code of Federal Regulations. You get them by a highly secret industrial training program. They limit your employment to Offshore Supply Vessels and can not be used for other work.
Chief

"Dead End." I don't see how that is the case. They definately do show up in the CFR's for the deck licenses, which is what this post was about anyway, and you can certainly cross over to non-trade restricted licenses with appropriate sea-time and testing which is currently no different than the conventional Master/Mate route. I rather wish people would refrain from commenting on topics they do not fully understand.

[anchorman]

All OSV credentials are a "Dead End"

So is going to Harvard with that attitude.

[Shellback]

I rather wish people would refrain from commenting on topics they do not
fully understand.

I know where you are coming from Diesel and see your point..

I actually learn quite a bit when a person is completely wrong on something because in no time it gets discussed and straightened out..Especially when it's on a topic that isn't in my area and I know nothing of the subject matter...

[seadawg]

I actually learn quite a bit when a person is completely wrong on something because in no time it gets discussed and straightened out..Especially when it's on a topic that isn't in my area and I know nothing of the subject matter...

agreed..have always considered this forum an avenue for discussion and opinion rather than a source for true hard facts..so as far as relying on people knowing what their talking about as a viable assumption.."Caveat Emptor"

[Shellback]

agreed..have always considered this forum an avenue for discussion and opinion rather than a source for true hard facts..so as far as relying on people knowing what their talking about as a viable assumption.."Caveat Emptor"

I can see it both ways, on one hand the more experienced people probably can't help but be bored by some of these threads....Their patience and tolerance is exemplary toward us less experienced guys...Some want to help, which is great, others don't want to be bothered, thats cool too...

What this forum does give is such a well rounded version of what the industry is about and what it has to offer...Not only can you get a glimpse of what the other side is having to go through " deck vs engine ",various types of vessels and routes but also information for what will come in your future as a mariner if you should choose to advance..

[anchorman]

Their patience and tolerance is exemplary

That counts me out.

[Shellback]

That counts me out.

Naw...You were one of the people I had in mind, when I wrote that...

[Conspearasea]

All OSV credentials are a "Dead End".
Chief

I've seen the vessel anchorman is on, and I would hardly call the Dino Chouest a Dead end.

While the OSV route may not be the best route for everyone, I for one am very impressed by many of the larger OSV vessels, and would be proud to be Master of them. JMHO

That being said, I am not personally going the OSV restricted route, but believe it could be a good opportunity for many mariners.

[10talents]

I've seen the vessel anchorman is on, and I would hardly call the Dino Chouest a Dead end.

Ditto the Laney Chouest too. Saw the Laney coming out of Galveston across the bay a couple of days ago.