Manning Requirement for voyages over 600 miles

[Navigator2]

My question is have the manning requirements changed for tugs on a voyage over 600 miles?

It has been my understanding that a 3 watch system is required on an uninspected tug on voyage over 600 miles in duration.

I have seen an that employer arbritarilly changes the manning on some tug & tows from a 3 watch (4x8) to a 2 watch (6x6) system based soley on their preference, the availability of crews, or expected work load in port (lashing & unlashing cargo by crew vs longshoreman.) It's very frustrating to be sitting on the beach due to seasonal slowdown & lack of work. I lack of seniority & am watching boats being sent out on runs that are well over 600 miles with a 6x6 crew.

Is it up to interpretation by the companies or is it clearly spelled out in the CFR's? Can someone refer me to the specific CFR that would help clarify this amiguity for me. Are ther court rulings that have can be cited also? Would appreciate comments & feedback.

[Azimuth]

46 CFR 15.705

[cajuntugster]

you are right to question this, unfortunately many companies break this law, reason being is no one is there to enforce the law. Are you really speeding if you don't get a ticket????

[Navigator2]

If I report it to the USCG I fear getting blackballed & finding myself permanently on the beach. ... If violations of this law are reported to the union are they any help in applying pressure the offending company who's members work under a collective bargaining agreement?
Does anyone out there have any expierience going to thier union with this type of situation?

[mike173]

If I report it to the USCG I fear getting blackballed & finding myself permanently on the beach. ... If violations of this law are reported to the union are they any help in applying pressure the offending company who's members work under a collective bargaining agreement?
Does anyone out there have any expierience going to thier union with this type of situation?

They smile and say they'll look into it. And go to lunch. Good luck getting any union to help.

[injunear]

If I report it to the USCG I fear getting blackballed & finding myself permanently on the beach. ... If violations of this law are reported to the union are they any help in applying pressure the offending company who's members work under a collective bargaining agreement?
Does anyone out there have any expierience going to thier union with this type of situation?

I've seen a couple of disagreements with manning of voyages over 600 miles. The SIU was brought into the discussion with no formal grievance. The extra mate was added posthaste.

On longer charters, especially in the last few years, the vetters would ding you if proper manning wasn't maintained.

[Cal]

On longer charters, especially in the last few years, the vetters would ding you if proper manning wasn't maintained.

Follow the money, find out who insures the company and it's vessels. Report the issue to them...

[Navigator2]

Thanks for advise! I'll proceed with caution!

[cappy208]

Although this is an old post, it applies to my recent post about this topic.

The manning IS spelled out, but there appears to be little enforcement or care from the USCG. The biggest caveat is whether the tug is OVER 200 tons on a voyage OVER 600 miles. You mention "all" these tugs, but with out knowing where to/how long a voyage/tonnage of the tugs, it is hard to determine if they are violating the law.

Someone commented about the sire vetting. That is true, most reputable charterers are aghast at the two watch system we have in the coastwise towing industry. But until the new regs come out, and we are held to an international manning regulation don't hold your breath for increased manning.